10 June 2005 (Friday)

important halachic question

Am I yotzei Shavu'ot* without cheesecake? I'm making so many other desserts for our party Monday that I'm not sure I'll have time to make it as well, and of everything on the list it is the least party-friendly food.

Opinions? I'm serious here.

* I have no clue whether that sentence construct is even a little bit passable. I never quite "got" the grammatical aspects of yotzei/motzi bit of halachic discourse.

# posted by shanna at 2:08 PM
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Ask Shifra mentioned important halachic question on 12 June 2005 at 9:19 AM in "The Real Meaning of Shavous":
Please visit our friend Shanna's weblog and help me convince her that Shavous without cheesecake is just not what God intended.
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It's nice to have a variety of deserts. I think you can pass on the cheesecake. Maybe someone else will bring one anyway. :)


Posted by: Mirty at 4:51 PM on 10 June 2005

Yes, you're halakhically OK without cheesecake.


Posted by: Gil at 4:57 PM on 10 June 2005

Sure your yotzeh, but without cheesecake what's the point! See my blog for delicious details!


Posted by: Shifra at 5:15 PM on 10 June 2005

You should know that you're not yotzei cheesecake with most store-bought cheesecake, since the 'cheese' in it is usually cream, cottage, or ricotta cheese, which aren't halakhically 'cheese' as all (hence they're easy to find kosher; they're not included in the gezeirah of gevinas aku"m). So while it may be tasty, it doesn't have a 'chalos shem' cheese, and therefore must be supplemented.

let me know if there's any other way i can help.


Posted by: ADDeRabbi at 3:17 AM on 12 June 2005

Oh please, ADDeRabbi. As if I would ever buy (and serve!) store-bought cheesecake. Although...the cheese in cheesecake is cream cheese. What in the world do you put in yours?


Posted by: shanna at 9:16 AM on 12 June 2005

I note from your post above that commentary is unnecessary at this point. But I think you made the right decision: it is clearly torat imecha to have cheesecake. At least, my mother -- who is, conveniently, sorta-kinda-South-Beaching -- says so. :)


Posted by: Naomi Chana at 1:04 PM on 12 June 2005

From DovBear, a comment: That woman is just ahead of her times, that's all. Wait a couple of centuries, and there will be shelves full of seforim by future gedolei hador, expounding on why using low fat ricotta cheese is not acceptable for being mekayem the mitzvah of eating dairy on Shavuos.
Enigma_4u | 06.10.05 - 5:26 pm | #

So the best choice is to invite Shifra, & you can try hers.


Posted by: eliyahu at 1:08 PM on 12 June 2005

I made a baked rice casserole with ricotta and mozzarella in the middle and a lokshen kugel with cream cheese. I believe these satisfied the dairy requirement. We had leftover store-bought cake from the week before. Please see Joyce Goldstein's Cucina ebraica for the rice recipe--bomba di riso. One can also put mozzarella, raisins, and lemon zest in the middle.


Posted by: 4jkb4ia at 9:04 PM on 16 June 2005
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